coolyo294
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Post by coolyo294 on Jul 26, 2014 4:18:08 GMT
And I want a yay or nay on this idea because Coolyo brought it up and it has been pestering me for some time. Vampire kids. I'm thinking that it could be possible for vampires to have offspring through other means, for example a mommy vampire and a daddy vampire(or any combination of either or) love each other very much and pay a lab run by vampires to collect DNA samples from them in order to make a test tube vampire baby. So yeah, I already established that test tube kids are a possibility. Just wondering how you guys would feel about test tube vampire babies... maybe kids, maybe growing them like the clones in Star Wars. Don't know, just throwing it out there. I think it's a cool idea. Also, have you considered the possibility of magic in this game? EDIT: On the subject of vampirism being a disease, I prefer the traditional undead route. It's more compelling that way
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Post by halonachos on Jul 27, 2014 19:26:36 GMT
I don't want magic because it's a large can of worms.
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Post by Darko on Jul 27, 2014 20:12:18 GMT
Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
In any case I'll be playing a good old homosapien in this.
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Post by Warork on Jul 27, 2014 20:37:08 GMT
Errr...I hate to be that one guy that asks the probably stupid question but...Why can't Vampires and Werewolves reproduce normally? Are we going with some sort of part of condition makes them infertile or...
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Post by The Kaiser on Jul 27, 2014 21:02:09 GMT
Vampires have no blood I swear. Hence no erection.
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Post by coolyo294 on Jul 27, 2014 22:42:38 GMT
And they're dead. Being dead impairs procreation just a titch
Edit: ah shit, that puts a hole in the charactwr I was planning on making
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Post by halonachos on Jul 28, 2014 3:24:18 GMT
Errr...I hate to be that one guy that asks the probably stupid question but...Why can't Vampires and Werewolves reproduce normally? Are we going with some sort of part of condition makes them infertile or... Yeah it's always been the whole vampires are undead sort of thing and can't reproduce. I've really only seen one movie where they tried to reproduce but that required frankenstein's monster and some other hibbly jibbly. I'm thinking that if I want to keep it with them being undead then I could use the whole test tube baby thing, but if I make it some sort of virus they would have all the same traits as a vampire except be living and able to reproduce. Werewolves are fully capable of reproducing but no one really cares about being a pureblood and all that jazz, except for certain hate groups that want purity. The biggest issue was that in Blood Moon a lot of people were into the whole "hybrid" and "pureblood" thing because that was the main motivation for the werewolf players. Vampires wanted to control the world, humans wanted to save it, and werewolves wanted to bring this prophecy to fruition. In this all the groups involved want to serve and protect an entire population so reproduction, hybridization, etc don't really matter. I'm not even planning on race traits involving that whole business because I would rather focus on previous careers, social upbringing, and economic status because that could have an effect on how a person develops and what traits they'll have. But one thing I was thinking about was getting really, really specific about vampire mating. Like if we use humans as the common ground then werewolves and humans have no problem because they're both technically humans who are alive but vampires are undead and need blood from humans. So to be specific male vampires could mate with female humans and have no issue and the child would just have an immunity to vampirism. However female vampires are an issue because it's a human baby connected to the same circulatory system as a vampire. Vampires feed off of human blood so it could be that a female vampire's body feeds off of the fetus and that's why they can't reproduce with humans or others. Not sure about vamps/wolves though, it doesn't make sense to have a human come from that pairing nor does it make sense to have a vampire or a werewolf come from it. So I could say that humans are a missing link for vampires and werewolves but those two are too genetically dissimilar that any offspring produced would not be viable.
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Post by Warork on Jul 28, 2014 8:47:03 GMT
The biggest issue was that in Blood Moon a lot of people were into the whole "hybrid" and "pureblood" thing because that was the main motivation for the werewolf players. Vampires wanted to control the world, humans wanted to save it, and werewolves wanted to bring this prophecy to fruition. In this all the groups involved want to serve and protect an entire population so reproduction, hybridization, etc don't really matter. I'm not even planning on race traits involving that whole business because I would rather focus on previous careers, social upbringing, and economic status because that could have an effect on how a person develops and what traits they'll have. That's a good way of going about it don't get me wrong. But have you also considered that characters who go the supernatural route may be very old considering their immortality and hence would be much more experienced than any human would ever be? I'm not sure how one would balance that in character creation but I'd love to hear your take on it. But one thing I was thinking about was getting really, really specific about vampire mating. Like if we use humans as the common ground then werewolves and humans have no problem because they're both technically humans who are alive but vampires are undead and need blood from humans. So to be specific male vampires could mate with female humans and have no issue and the child would just have an immunity to vampirism. However female vampires are an issue because it's a human baby connected to the same circulatory system as a vampire. Vampires feed off of human blood so it could be that a female vampire's body feeds off of the fetus and that's why they can't reproduce with humans or others. No problems there...seems very logical Not sure about vamps/wolves though, it doesn't make sense to have a human come from that pairing nor does it make sense to have a vampire or a werewolf come from it. So I could say that humans are a missing link for vampires and werewolves but those two are too genetically dissimilar that any offspring produced would not be viable. In this far future where werewolves and vampires are socially accepted it is quite possible that scientific studies have been done one each ones' genetic makeup. It is then quite possible that the two have been declared so genetically different that biological reproduction between two specimens have proven impossible. I wouldn't really see this as a problem anyway as the past between the two is bad enough that I'm sure the two have developed societal stereotypes against one another and generally keep to themselves...much like a lot of different ethnicities do today. Well, that's just the first thing that came to mind, you might have had something slightly different in mind but that's how I see it.
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Post by Lord Harrab on Jul 28, 2014 10:42:50 GMT
Warork, we have to do a Vamp/Werwolf team up for reasons.
And i have to add my support to coolyo, Undead vampires makes sense if they are still going to have all the traditional weaknesses.
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Post by halonachos on Jul 28, 2014 19:13:37 GMT
Yeah probably going to stick with supernatural vampires, maybe have scientists trying to figure out how the immortality thing is working because immortality would be big business. But for the most part vamps and wolves are socially acceptable, just not trusted completely by humans or each other. Keep in mind that there were two major wars; one between humans and wolves and the other was a human/wolf against vamps. All sides committed atrocities against one side at some point in time. Most noted was the vamp use of nukes against combined forces in the timeline. Most living veterans or relatives of those lost will probably have their reservations against whichever side they were fighting.
As far as immortality affecting stats, not really. Sure a werewolf may have lived for 1,000 years but in that time cannons have been around for 800 years, muskets were a standard arm only 600 years, and automatic firearms have been around for 96 years. Also figure in that time that werewolves don't really need guns or other bits of technology to live and immortality doesn't really matter. Same for a vampire really and the only thing that might be affected by age would be the amount of money saved up which would be part of an economic status rather than age.
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