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Post by Darko on Dec 3, 2015 19:30:29 GMT
And most of the public are pretty unhappy about it. Prime Minister David Cameron has gone as far as to call anyone against the vote 'terrorist sympathisers.' www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-34982880So, the whole situation is continuing to escalate, more middle eastern civilians will be killed and a lot of angry, vengeful widowers and orphans will turn to the extremists to get revenge once their homes have been demolished. Don't get me wrong, obviously something has to be done about this mess of a situation, but I personally agree this isn't the right course of action. It's difficult to say what would be, and I'm not well educated on the subject enough to presume to know what would be best. But carpet bombing "the enemy" is unlikely to help the situation, as is the leader of our country throwing around terms like terrorist sympathiser like it's nothing. Discuss.
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Post by Castiel on Dec 4, 2015 17:48:42 GMT
Blowing up innocent civilians will in no way radicalise the local population and drive them into Daesh's open arms.
We shouldn't be bombing. If we are then there should be a concerted ground effort as well, otherwise we'll never beat Daesh.
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Post by Warork on Dec 6, 2015 7:36:30 GMT
Prime Minister David Cameron has gone as far as to call anyone against the vote 'terrorist sympathisers.' Reminds me of Bush's famous "You are with us or you are with the terrorists" line. Honestly after watching the US spend two presidencies mired in the muck of middle eastern geopolitics I am officially numb to it. We in the west fuel the titanic struggle of order versus the hydra headed body of radical religious terrorism around the globe with the lives of our young men and women while those far off countries not fortunate enough to have standing forces of their own to fight must stand idly by and watch as foreign powers do as they wish and kill their own young men and women. Its gotten to the point where its like saying "Africa is violent" or "world hunger is bad." All I can do is shrug my shoulders and say "that's how the world works." I'm not angry or surprised or upset about this sort of thing anymore...just...hollow.
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Post by Warrender on Dec 8, 2015 12:23:31 GMT
Personally I'm in the belief that no matter what we do, or how well intentioned it is, we're gonna be screwed over one way or another.
If we do nothing we'll continue to be a target, if we do something about it we'll still be a target and even if we manage to break apart their ability to wage a war how long until yet another group springs up.
Everytime we've gone into that area to try and help it's ended up kicking us up the rear. Part of me does wonder whether the only way to truly solve the issue is to occupy the countries collectively and take control. But we all know that will never happen and the backlash from such an action would be horrific on all sides involved.
I can't make up my mind on which side I agree with due to this. I'm not jealous of the people making these decisions as they have a huge weight on their shoulders.
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Post by halonachos on Dec 9, 2015 1:02:04 GMT
we're gonna be screwed over one way or another. That's basically it, there is no winning this situation but there might be a best possible solution. Major issue with most extremists is that they hide among civilians and use civilian buildings. Daesh has camps, but they don't have anything like a naval base or large army base that can be determined to be a 100% military target. If we bomb them, civilians will most likely die. If we don't bomb them, civilians will most likely die. Hell, they're finding Yazidi mass graves now and those are all Daesh's fault. Raqqa is worse than Nazi Germany and unfortunately they have people sneaking in all over the world and have supporters willing to take up arms. At least your government isn't taking away tactical gear and armored vehicles from state and local police departments after a mass shooting done by two ISIS supporters while looking at ways to reduce gun access for all citizens.
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